I dont believe you, you're full of shit another fucking liar, you're so full of shit just a fucking waste, a waste of fucking time i don't care what you say phony is still fucking phony believe it or not, not all of those involved in punk and hardcore are on the up and up. phony is phony no matter how you dress it up. a couple of years from now, it will look different again. but the diehards will always find ways to stay ahead of the fakes and the phonies. these fuckers may have the look, and they may have the sound, but they'll never be one of us. these prospective prom kings and prom queens will move on soon enough and nobody will miss them.